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04-11-09, 12:31
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Am I missing something in Mechelen-Mouscron - as far as I know it's not derby, right?
My estimation for the homewin in near 60% and odds available up to 1,85.
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04-11-09, 15:39
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Mouscron in financial difficulties, there will be an outcome on Friday morning, little bit unclear if match in Mechelen will be played, but it will probably go ahead. If Mouscron gets "bad news" on Friday it will be their last game so odds will drop then very fast to 1.35 or something. But if Mouscron gets "good news" that club will certainly continue until winterbreak or end of the season, it could be morale boost for players. Because, don't forget, Mouscron hasn't got a bad team at all. With players like Van Gyseghem, Lestienne, Jaycee and Ouali and Mechelen lost twice in a row now: Anderlecht (home) and Kortrijk (away).
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05-11-09, 13:26
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06 Nov 2009 1 X 2
20:30 Charleroi - Gent 2.85 3.23 2.31
07 Nov 2009 1 X 2
20:00 Cercle Brugge - Westerlo 2.08 3.24 3.29
20:00 Germinal - St. Truiden 1.56 3.59 5.66
20:00 Lokeren - Kortrijk 1.96 3.26 3.61
20:00 Mechelen - Mouscron 1.75 3.36 4.42
20:00 Roeselare - Waregem 3.61 3.32 1.94
08 Nov 2009 1 X 2
18:00 Genk - Anderlecht 3.44 3.24 2.02
20:30 Standard Liege - Club Brugge 2.17 3.20 3.11
ป Charleroi - AA Gent | Downtrend : Downtrend
Odds: 2.85 3.23 2.31
Charleroi home: 1-2-3 7-12
Charleroi form: 0-3-3 8-14
Home form: 1-2-3 7-12
AA Gent away: 2-2-3 8-9
AA Gent form: 1-1-4 5-9
Away form: 1-2-3 5-8
Trend @ Hometeam: Charleroi is 6-3-5
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: AA Gent is 2-0-1
ป Cercle Brugge - Westerlo | Neutral : Uptrend
Odds: 2.08 3.24 3.29
Cercle Brugge home: 1-2-3 8-11
Cercle Brugge form: 1-3-2 6-8
Home form: 1-2-3 8-11
Westerlo away: 2-1-3 6-12
Westerlo form: 3-2-1 10-7
Away form: 2-1-3 6-12
Trend @ Hometeam: Cercle Brugge is 3-3-0
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Cercle Brugge is 3-0-0
ป Germinal Beerschot - Sint Truiden | Uptrend : Downtrend
Odds: 1.56 3.59 5.66
Germinal Beerschot home: 4-1-1 11-8
Germinal Beerschot form: 4-0-2 8-8
Home form: 4-1-1 11-8
Sint Truiden away: 3-1-3 8-8
Sint Truiden form: 0-0-6 5-13
Away form: 3-0-3 6-6
Trend @ Hometeam: Germinal Beerschot is 8-1-0
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Germinal Beerschot is 2-0-0
ป Lokeren - Kortrijk | Neutral : Neutral
Odds: 1.96 3.26 3.61
Lokeren home: 2-2-3 12-11
Lokeren form: 2-1-3 7-9
Home form: 2-1-3 11-10
Kortrijk away: 1-4-1 9-8
Kortrijk form: 2-2-2 8-7
Away form: 1-4-1 9-8
Trend @ Hometeam: Lokeren is 2-0-0
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Lokeren is 1-0-0
ป Mechelen - Excelsior Mouscron | Neutral : Neutral
Odds: 1.75 3.36 4.42
Mechelen home: 4-0-2 11-8
Mechelen form: 3-0-3 6-7
Home form: 4-0-2 11-8
Excelsior Mouscron away: 1-2-3 9-14
Excelsior Mouscron form: 1-3-2 7-8
Away form: 1-2-3 9-14
Trend @ Hometeam: Excelsior Mouscron is 1-2-0
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Neither team is favoured based on history.
ป Roeselare - Zulte Waregem | Neutral : Neutral
Odds: 3.61 3.32 1.94
Roeselare home: 1-1-4 9-16
Roeselare form: 1-2-3 9-12
Home form: 1-1-4 9-16
Zulte Waregem away: 2-3-1 9-9
Zulte Waregem form: 3-2-1 13-8
Away form: 2-3-1 9-9
Trend @ Hometeam: Neither team is favoured based on history.
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Roeselare is 2-0-1
ป Racing Genk - Anderlecht | Uptrend : Neutral
Odds: 3.44 3.24 2.02
Racing Genk home: 1-3-3 8-9
Racing Genk form: 3-1-2 10-6
Home form: 1-3-2 7-7
Anderlecht away: 4-0-2 11-7
Anderlecht form: 5-0-1 11-5
Away form: 4-0-2 11-7
Trend @ Hometeam: Anderlecht is 6-5-2
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Anderlecht is 1-2-0
ป Standard Liege - Club Brugge | Downtrend : Uptrend
Odds: 2.17 3.20 3.11
Standard Liege home: 2-4-0 9-5
Standard Liege form: 2-3-1 5-4
Home form: 2-4-0 9-5
Club Brugge away: 4-1-1 14-9
Club Brugge form: 5-1-0 13-6
Away form: 4-1-1 14-9
Trend @ Hometeam: Standard Liege is 7-1-6
Trend @ Hometeam L 3 years: Standard Liege is 3-0-0
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05-11-09, 15:33
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Thx Jensen, hope you'll continue opening topics per playday.
Nice work!
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06-11-09, 14:23
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For Tonight
Charleroi - Gent
Both teams are in a very serious downthred. Charleroi has some serious internal troubles. The coach quitted the team because he's mad at the chairman. The chairman demanded that some players must be on the field, and the coach didn't took it longer. Nobody likes the Iranian chairman of Charleroi and his cousins who are manager in the club. they are so amateuristic and always have trouble with the Belgian Liga. Gent lost his last game at home against G.Beerschot, and it was an important game, because both teams had the same amount of points and are battling for a spot in the top 6. Gent has a better team than Charleroi, and Gent must win or they will be at crisis. Coach Preud'homme will have to chance his tactics and has re-organise the team. If everything goes well, the team easily can beat Charleroi.
Pick: A, Odds: 2.42, Stake: 5, Bookmaker: Betfair
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06-11-09, 14:26
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Kv Mechelen - Moeskroen
Moeskroen is in a very odd situation with the financial problems, the coach (Djukic) resigned because he says the communication isn't right between him and the board. Now Gil Vanderbrouck (Youth coach) has taken his tasks over and trains the team. Moeskroen did however manage to get a nice result at home against Standard (0-0). But Standard played with a half B-team and wasn't motivated. Kv Mechelen is currently more a team than Standard and maybe they even play better than Standard at the moment, so this game on the field of Kv Mechelen is a lot more difficult than the previous game against Standard. Moeskroen still doesn't know if they're going bankrupt or not, they are taking juridical steps, etc... It's not the first time they got in this situation, they had the same problems 3 times in the last 6 years and always managed to keep in live, but this time it could be to much, we will see. It's certainly not good for the layers, they somethimes don't know what to do on training, and interim coach Van den Brouck said in the newspaper, that he'll just try to let them have fun on the training and the field, but those issues aren't the reason why i want to lay my bet on Kv Mechelen.
Kv Mechelen is just a very good team at the moment They had an off day last week (2-0 loss on Kortrijk) but it was the first bad game i saw them lay this season. They are currently 4th in the table and even have a good chance to take the 3rd spot if they win, because Standard has to play against Brugge on Sunday. Always full house in Kv Mechelen stadium, and they'll surely to their best to sing their team to the victory. Kv Mechelen is one of the revelations this year, and i don't think it has ended yet.
Pick: H, Odds: 1.90, Stake: 7, Bookmaker: SBO
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06-11-09, 14:33
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I disagree with Gent pick.
Asia comes out with +0.25 / -0.25 line while in previous years the line was always DNB and it's never easy for Gent to play at Charleroi (despite the 2-5 victory last season).
I think the trainers change woke up the players, while Gent is really in (mini)crisis. The home advantage is also for Charleroi.
Very important game for both teams, losing is out of question for both teams. I'm going with the underdog, as this game is 50/50. Charleroi +0.25 @ 1.87
Also Mechelen -0.75 @ 2.17 is my pick of the week-end, should be really easy victory for Mechelen
=> posted it on mainpage.
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06-11-09, 15:04
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Mechelen v Mouscron is so unpredictable. Normally KVM should win, if we look at the ranking and circumstances. But KVM has 0 out of 6 lately and maybe Mouscron players are motivated to show themselves to other clubs or to give a sign that Mouscron isn't dead yet.
Bahrain NT coach wanted Mouscron player Jaycee already in his squad for friendly today vs Togo and WC play off vs New Zealand next week, but Mouscron refused, while they don't train and are in big difficulties, so... I just have no clue.
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06-11-09, 16:23
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It's allowed to disagree with picks, fortunately :-)
But i firstly look to the fixture not to the odds, asian handicaps, what line there is.
Pick First, Odds afterwards...
Change of coach in Charleroi?
Strange coach, 3 people, (a manager, a scout, and assistent trainer) are the coach now...
And they say they won't do this long.
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06-11-09, 16:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon BFF
It's allowed to disagree with picks, fortunately :-)
But i firstly look to the fixture not to the odds, asian handicaps, what line there is.
Pick First, Odds afterwards...
Change of coach in Charleroi?
Strange coach, 3 people, (a manager, a scout, and assistent trainer) are the coach now...
And they say they won't do this long.
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I'm considering a Gent bet tonight. They are really in a must win situation and have more quality, especially in attack. Hantsveit will return too.
A better bet instead of KV-Moeskroen for me is Lokeren-Kortrijk. Normally a HW if they can play like last week. Problem is the GK and captain of Lokeren Copa is still injured and that's a big loss.
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06-11-09, 17:38
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Also am thinking about Lokeren_kortrijk, nice odds on Lokeren.
But just to warn: this could be more a battle between the coaches than between the teams.
Mathijssen vs Leekens ....
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06-11-09, 19:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon BFF
Also am thinking about Lokeren_kortrijk, nice odds on Lokeren.
But just to warn: this could be more a battle between the coaches than between the teams.
Mathijssen vs Leekens ....
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The fact that Leekens is coach at Kortrijk is the one thing that keeps me away from this bet. Lokeren has a better team and they need to win but Leekens knows all the players so he'll be prepared like no other JPL-match.
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06-11-09, 20:04
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Originally Posted by Wurfel
I'm considering a Gent bet tonight. They are really in a must win situation and have more quality, especially in attack. Hantsveit will return too.
A better bet instead of KV-Moeskroen for me is Lokeren-Kortrijk. Normally a HW if they can play like last week. Problem is the GK and captain of Lokeren Copa is still injured and that's a big loss.
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It's true what you say about Gents quality but Charleroi has individual players too, with lot of talent and quality: Gu้dioura, Christ, Muyangi Bia, Th้reau, Kage, Cordaro, Habibou ...
Lokeren - KVK, yes because of Jacky Mathijssen, but KVK is playing well under Georges Leekens, last week beating KVM at home and have 17 (!!!) points in the ranking.
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06-11-09, 20:49
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Lokeren is without Carevic, Copa and El Mouataz. How can you take Lokeren in this case? Kortrijk is a team with good organisation and also Leekens factor..
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06-11-09, 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon BFF
It's allowed to disagree with picks, fortunately :-)
But i firstly look to the fixture not to the odds, asian handicaps, what line there is.
Pick First, Odds afterwards...
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Well, value and odds are very important in betting. What you say means that you would take Gent even if they were -0.5 @ 1.70
In some cases, you just see that there is a winner, and the line is -1 @ 1.80 while there is no value, you just see that it could be an easy win, sadly enough it doesn't happen too much.
I took Charleroi as value bet, in long term it pays - off
Charleroi is 0-1 down at HT btw
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06-11-09, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Lokorus
Well, value and odds are very important in betting. What you say means that you would take Gent even if they were -0.5 @ 1.70
In some cases, you just see that there is a winner, and the line is -1 @ 1.80 while there is no value, you just see that it could be an easy win, sadly enough it doesn't happen too much.
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I believe you've misunderstood him, Loko.
A lot of experts first make their estimations, before opening the odds, in order not to get influenced.
After that, you take a look at the odds, and decide if there's value in them, comparing to your own estimations.
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06-11-09, 23:15
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yep..
For week-end I have Mechelen -0.75, Germinal Beerschot -1, Kortrijk +0.5 and KVSK United +0.25 from 2nd division (main-page)
Good luck for the week-end everybody
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06-11-09, 23:17
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06-11-09, 23:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strandns
I believe you've misunderstood him, Loko.
A lot of experts first make their estimations, before opening the odds, in order not to get influenced.
After that, you take a look at the odds, and decide if there's value in them, comparing to your own estimations.
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That's exactly what i mean.
It's rule one if you want to become a profitable punter.
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07-11-09, 09:28
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Any new info about Mechelen and Mouscron..?
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07-11-09, 10:09
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Any new info about Mechelen and Mouscron..?
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Chen returns in the selection of KV Mechelen. According to me a very important player in defense. Moeskroen haven't trained some days this week and knows on monday more about their future. Really difficult match imo. Possibly Moeskroen plays well and the players want to show them to new clubs, it can also result in individualism. KVM will play like a team supported by the enthousiastic homecrowd... If you really ask me to choose I would go for a small HW.
For Lokeren-Kortrijk, maybe Under 2,5 is the best bet. The team who will score the first goal will defend it if you know the two coaches. lokeren is missing a couple of players, but Golan, Sokota for example were still on the bench last week so replacement should be ok. Lokeren has for me the biggest chances for a small win.
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07-11-09, 11:39
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Moeskroen-squad missed 2 or 3 trainings this week.
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07-11-09, 12:09
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Standard-Club Brugge
Top game this weekend. Leader Brugge visits Standard, who took a lot of confidence out of the CL-win against Olympiakos. Actually Standard has 2 faces. They can only motivate themselves in important clashes. Against small teams in the league, they lost points.
Be sure that they will be very motivated to beat Brugge. With the help of their fanatic fans, this will be a real cup game.
Club Brugge misses important defender Hoefkens, the leader of the defense. That was visible against Partizan Belgrado on thursday. If Standard attackers Jovanovic, Mbokani and Carcela are in good shape, the Brugge defense will be under a lot of pressure.
I see Standard winning at home.
HW @ 2.10 bwin
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07-11-09, 12:32
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yep you are right, HW is on my thoughts too
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07-11-09, 12:56
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Don't be to hasty to catch this bet on Standard.
We all know what the big problem is, they can't mentally prepare for a game in the domestic league, even if its against Brugge.
And if they are motivated, Brugge is on supreme strike, they really are surprising me, their football still isn't that great, but they score so many goals.
Dangerous fixture to bet on!
Over 2.5 seems a proper choice for me.
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07-11-09, 13:40
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Don't be to hasty to catch this bet on Standard.
We all know what the big problem is, they can't mentally prepare for a game in the domestic league, even if its against Brugge.
And if they are motivated, Brugge is on supreme strike, they really are surprising me, their football still isn't that great, but they score so many goals.
Dangerous fixture to bet on!
Over 2.5 seems a proper choice for me.
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I am supporting your pick on main page, Standard -Brugge game, but I have one question?
Did you mean >2.75 because I could not find those odds on over2.5?
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07-11-09, 14:05
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KV Mechelen is not in a great period, but at home they are a strong team. They have great fans and in their home games they must be able of winning against teams as Moeskroen.
Moeskroen still has a lot of problems. The financial aspect is really poor and the club is actually bankrupt. Monday the club will now if they can finish this season and this is very hard for players. Last weekend the coach and his assistent reseigned because of all this problems, so I think it's a very hard situation for Moeskroen. That's why I think they won't win in Mechelen.
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07-11-09, 14:46
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when people say main page what page do they mean ?
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07-11-09, 14:49
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when people say main page what page do they mean ?
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bettingadvice.com
On the top right side there is a list with predictions.
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07-11-09, 15:15
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Quote:
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I am supporting your pick on main page, Standard -Brugge game, but I have one question?
Did you mean >2.75 because I could not find those odds on over2.5?
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Correct. it should be 2.75.
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