Partizan Belgrado - Club Brugge

Simon BFF · 03-11-09, 19:30

Partizan Belgrado - Club Brugge 2.40 3.30 2.80

Think there is quite some class difference between these 2 teams. Ok, i know the return game, in a crowdy Partizan stadium is a whole lot of different form the match in Brugge.
But the way Brugge outplayed Partizan (2-0) was so convincing, they created at least 8 big chances, and Partizan did nothing. Also a big strength of Club Brugge, the players enjoy playing good football, you see that on the way they are playing. Lots of pressure forwardly, much infiltrations, etc...
Perisic is a new player, and hes imediatly one of the most important players of the team. He scored the 2 goals against Partizan, and made the defense crazy. Also one of the best players at the moment is Ronald Vargas (Venezuela). He came last year for lots of money, other big teams wanted him, but he signed for Brugge. He was really dissapointing last season, had to adapt to the european life, way of football, physics, etc... But now he really developing in to a very dangerous winger who gives plenty of assists and scores once and a while.
Currently he has the most assists (13) behind his name in the domestic league. I just think this Brugge is stronger than Partizan, and the stadium, crowd won't be such an influence on thegame of Brugge, because they just like to play good and offensively football.

Pick: Club Brugge DNB @ 2.08 (SBO)

Lazy A$$ · 03-11-09, 19:57

It will surely not be a crowded stadium. Partizan has never played worse football than they're doing this season. There's a huge internal conflict in Partizan's board. There are so many manager's players, probably the most in the recent club's history that have to be in the starting lineup and who have never been worse. The team is also in horrible shape.

I will not get involved here, but the class difference from the first leg isn't realistic as Partizan played 10 times below their level. I don't know if they will do the same again, or they will try in their last attempt to win some points this season. But should be a no-bet.

Techmozz · 03-11-09, 20:42

Vargas is not in the squad

They give him rest for clash against Standard.

is it true it is snowing and freezing in Belgrade?

djasmu · 03-11-09, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Techmozz

Vargas is not in the squad

They give him rest for clash against Standard.

is it true it is snowing and freezing in Belgrade?

yes...all day is snowing here...but on thurdsay it will be about 10-12C...

pfc123 · 04-11-09, 00:04

about fans thing , i expect max 10000 (capacity is 32000) because we play bad and the bigger reason is that many fans ( me as well) will go to basketball ... we play against orleans in euroleague at 20:45 so more important for us is basketball atm

Shumitze Atlantik · 04-11-09, 22:47

Partizan from 2005. without win in UEFA matches.
Maybe like Inter, they will end black series.Weakest opponent in group.
Against Shaktar in Belgrade will be Hiroshima Nagasaki.

Kurdistan · 04-11-09, 23:22

i think we will see here a draw....but iam not sure.. iam waiting, when i sure, i will post than. now its for me to open a discussion...

Elrio · 05-11-09, 09:33

Bruges missing Carl Hoefkens (6 weeks) and Ronald Vargas (resting for Sunday vs Standard), two very important players. But squad is big and normally they can be replaced without too big loss of quality. Donk will play instead of Hoefkens and Vargas can be replaced with some shuffling on the midfield or attack. I don't know yet how Bruges will play tonight, because it's an European game away. Normally at home Bruges goes for 4-4-2, but maybe tonight there will be another tactical variant with 1 targetman (Akpala, Kouemaha or Sonck) and 5 on the midfield. On the other hand, coach Adrie Koster likes to play his "own game" and rarely adepts to the oppontent.

Don't look too much at home game where Bruges outclassed Partizan. This time it's away, other game, other circumstances. I just don't know if Partizan is motivated a lot.

At this moment, no bet for me. Draw could be possible indeed. Maybe even low score like 0-0?

EDIT:
Expected line-ups:

Partizan Belgrado: Radosavljevic,
Knezevic, Djordjevic, Krstajic, Lomic,
Fejsa, B.Jovanovic, Moreira, Llajic,
Tomic, Diarra

Club Brugge: Stijnen, De Mets, Donk,
Alcaraz, Klukowski, Geraerts, Odjidja,
Blondel, Perisic, Dirar, Akpala

goran91415 · 05-11-09, 10:23

If it's bad weather maybe under is good choise?

Vinmin · 05-11-09, 13:42

Brugge normally is the better team of the two. Especially Belgrado defence is very weak.
Brugge won several games in a row now, and the moral is very good. However, the injury of Hoefkens is a bad thing for them. Donk had quality enough to replace him, but doens't have the leader capacities of Hoefkens. Young rightback De Mets needs a lot of coaching..

Because Brugge is the better team, but sometimes need a lot of chances to score (like last week):

Brugge DNB @ 2.05

Azurnizmaj · 05-11-09, 14:57

2.6 on Brugge is must taken here even there is big chance for draw. Partizan is this season to weak for any european team.
Also, this is a big chance for Brugge to secure 2nd place in the group. They can decide about own destiny against Toulouse at home if they win tonight.

Simon BFF · 05-11-09, 15:30

Coach Koster (Brugge): 'We will play to win, like always'

Kop-ita · 05-11-09, 15:38

I can agree with you that Partizan play bad this season but can`t agree that Brugge is better team.
Partizan were unlucky eliminated in CL qualify against APOEL and they lost
self-confidence and motivation. But tonight i think they can find the way out against weakest opponent in group.
Partizan have quality on his side and nothing to lose.
I think HW is sum safe in hand

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Azurnizmaj · 05-11-09, 16:17

What quality? Did you look previous Partizan games? They only cappable to say "We will..." but nothing to present concretly. Yes, they have nothing to lose, but also nothing to get. You really think they could advance further with zero points? No way. Great odds on AW. I wouldn be sorry to put money on goodtrend team like Brudgge is, even if they play against bad Partizan which is usually unpredictable and especially now, with this downtrend in eurpoean games...

Brasilian player Cleo will not play tonight. He is one of the Partizan best players

StEtOc|nA · 05-11-09, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Azurnizmaj

Brasilian player Cleo will not play tonight. He is one of the Partizan best players

Oh yea

Come on, Cleo turned out to be nothing more than mediocre addition in Partizan squad. Few good games, one super goal and few other regulars and that's about it. Why is it like that is another question but Cleo's absence is nothing special tonight.

Prija · 05-11-09, 18:09

Weather is fine here, it will be around 7-8 degrees at the time of kick off. There will be no big support for the team cause of bad atmosphere and cause basketball team plays Euroleague match at the same time. Anyway, Partizan got humbled in Brugge, they are without a point so far and this is their only realistic chance of getting any points in this group so they will be very motivated to do well. Also last time they played in Uefa league finished as well w/o a point, so it's a matter of honor to get something out of this match. Partizan is not good this season, but at home they're still hard to beat and after seeing Brugge in 1st leg and also in couple of games in Belgium, I think they're a decent team, but not good enough to be favorite on a tough away trip no doubts. Partizan dnb 1.95 Pinnacle is my call.

StEtOc|nA · 05-11-09, 18:10

Regarding tonights game, I think there are more than decent chances to see an over here. Partizan's defense looks ridiculous. Fact. They concede like little kids. Fact. Partizan will try to recuperate in front of its own fans by trying to take some points after very very long time. Nothing to lose here, don't even have their pride anymore.
Brugge is coming for a win. But this will be different game. Yet, they will have their chances to severely punish Partizan's attacks. I expect Bruge to close a bit, but this tactics will probably give them more weapon after they manage to brake Partizan's midfield.
I don't expect to see Partizan defending but attacking. I expect Brugge scoring. I expect Partizan to score.

My bet here is over 2.5 @ 2.00 StanJames 5/10, I am late few minutes for MP

Elrio · 06-11-09, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Kop-ita

I can agree with you that Partizan play bad this season but can`t agree that Brugge is better team.

c'mon man Bruges for sure is better team in quality, but better doesn't always win, that's why sport betting is that difficult

it looks again that many people let their supporters heart speak and that's not what we need at a bettingadvice site!

the weakest team in this group is Partizan! not Bruges, not Toulouse! They are way above your squad!

Lazy A$$ · 06-11-09, 11:10

Brugge sucks, don't get deceived but Partizan just didn't exist on the pitch. They played like a huge joke. Their defense is funny, slow, not interested in anything, and both the last and current coaches are total wankers, who have got no authority whatsover and suck as experts. This was horrible, the fans should have all left the stands at HT. Never seen a more effortless display by Partizan in my life. They deserve to have their graves dug out on the pitch, just like Hajduk Split's fans did to their players a few seasons ago.

Hope some kind of fan boycott starts soon and nobody will be coming to the FC's matches anymore till something dramatic changes.

Elrio · 06-11-09, 11:17

I will not get involved in this, but if one team sucks in this group it's Partizan. Case closed.

pfc123 · 06-11-09, 15:40

in this group only Shakhtar is a good team and all other sucks and it seems that Brugges sucks less than Toulouse and Partizan , thats story about this group

Lazy A$$ · 06-11-09, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Elrio

I will not get involved in this, but if one team sucks in this group it's Partizan. Case closed.

I hate when people read just the first line of someone's post. In the future make sure not to respond if you haven't read everything.

Simon BFF · 06-11-09, 16:27

Why are you guys tripping ?
Partizan is obviously a weak team this year.
I also know there where different times where they where a opponent teams rather avoided.
But now i think everybody can win against Partizan.
Serious trouble there in the squad i think.
And that player that already signed for Man Utd, don't remember the name, what a lack of motivation, not healthy.

Elrio · 06-11-09, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Lazy A$$

I hate when people read just the first line of someone's post. In the future make sure not to respond if you haven't read everything.

I have read everything. There are just no excuses. Partizan doesn't have 0 points because they don't have motivation or are not running, they have 0 points because their are the weakest team in this group, less quality of all four. Shaktar for sure has best squad and most quality, Toulouse second and Bruges third.

SRBI · 06-11-09, 18:14

Partizan in Euro Competitions = Fade material, which means you bet the opposite team that Partizan is playing ;P

It's sad, but it's true. Our league teams are awful and cannot compete at european level.

But just wait for the World Cup, we already showed what we can do in qualifications ;P

P.S. Shakthar is awesome!

Palermo19 · 06-11-09, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Elrio

Shaktar for sure has best squad and most quality, Toulouse second and Bruges third.

It's true. But, there is large gap between Shakthar and Toulouse. However, don't be convinced in that difference between Clube Brugge and Partizan. Both matches won less bad team.

Elrio · 06-11-09, 22:43

Partizan was outclassed in Bruges. That was a very good game from the Belgians, totally in control for 90 minutes. One chance for the Serbs, a shot from 35 metres from Jovanovic. Partizan was nowhere in that match. Bruges even missed penalty and several chances, could have been easy 4-0 or 5-0 instead of 2-0.

Palermo19 · 07-11-09, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Elrio

Bruges even missed penalty and several chances

I have just written about that - real team wouldn't miss that opportunity to finish off that weak rival. I saw that match and I didn't see mighty Brugge, I just saw poor Partizan. So, those matches can be a measure for nothing, except that Partizan is miserable. Next match, against Shakhtar, could be huge over.

Elrio · 07-11-09, 09:57

I understand what you want to say. But it's not true that in Bruges - Partizan less bad team won, because Bruges played a good game, good passing, many chances. It's not true that the two teams were playing awful soccer in that game. Only Partizan played awful. Bruges had a nice style (esp in first half) in that game and outclassed the visitors from Belgrade. Otherwise you can always say that when a team was playing nice football and won, it was due to weakness of the opponent. But I understand if you say Bruges and Partizan are no European contenders, none of them will win the Europa League off course, most likely not even reach second round. But Bruges was already able to draw 2-2 in Toulouse after a nice game, so it's not true that they are a mess too like Partizan.